president obama came out this week and said he supports this bill. do you want his active involvement in this? do you need his active involvement or is it better to have him stand back and let you all handle this? >> a few months back when the president was headed to nevada to talk about immigration, the sunday before he left he was on the phone with chuck schumer and me and we talked for a few minutes and he said "all right, i won't put a bill on the table, i'll give you the chance to move forward. t i've learned a less watching congress, i'm not going to wait forever so get on to it have.president has been encouraging us. he supports comprehensive immigration reform. i know he'll do whatever it takes to help us pass this bill but he's committed to it personally. >> warner: senator richard durbin of illinois, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> suarez: in the fourth in our five-part online series, we catch up with jesus garcia, an activist we first interviewed about immigration reform in 2006. what has and hasn't changed in the last seven years? y